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For A Time Like This: The Catholic School Response to Systemic Racism - Shared screen with speaker view
Kathy Mears
25:44
Thanks for being here!
Rebecca Wilson
26:05
Rebecca Wilson--Visitation Academy--All female population; St. Louis, MO
Carie Coleman
26:07
Carie Coleman from La Salle Prep in Portland, OR. Thank for the opportunity!
Juan Silva
26:09
Hi everyone, this is Juan Silva. I am the Program Admin for Federal and State Programs for the Archdiocese of Los Angeles.
Ann Dettmann
26:09
Hello! Ann Dettmann from Minnesota here
Kevin Kiefer
26:19
Good afternoon everyone. Kevin Kiefer, Principal, Bishop Gorman Catholic High School, Las Vegas, NV, here. And hello Rodney!
Kathy Mears
26:20
You’re welcome, Gina! Thanks for joining us!
Catherine Villmer
26:31
Cady Villmer - Spanish teacher at Visitation Academy in Saint Louis, MO.
Christian Cahill
26:35
Hello, Christian Cahill - Junipero Serra High School in San Mateo, CA (all boys)
Trudy Hoffman
26:35
Hi! Trudy from St. Mary’s DRVC on Long Island 6th grade religion teacher
Buenaventura Torres-Ayala
26:36
I assume we are muted. I am Buenaventura Torres-Ayala. I teach at Notre Dame High School in Sherman Oaks, CA. I also assume that our video is not on. We can see you, but you can't see us.
Ms. Terry Piumetti
26:58
Thank you panelists! Terry from Providence High School Burbank, Cali
Jenny Stiefel
27:03
Hi! Jenny from St. Francis High School in Illinois
brdavid
27:04
Thanks so much for doing this for us, Brother David St. Anthony's HS South Huntington, New York
Claire Willis
27:04
Hello! Claire Willis, Principal at Cristo Rey Baton Rouge Franciscan High School in Louisiana
Amy Jefferis
27:05
Hello! Amy Jefferis, Associate Superintendent for the Archdiocese of Portland Department of Catholic Schools
Josh Wilson
27:05
Josh Wilson...Louisville High School...All Girls, Woodland Hills, CA. Thank you for doing this!
Patrice Critchley-Menor
27:07
Patrice Critchley-Menor, social action director from teh Diocese of Duluth
Jeff Bell
27:10
Hi! I am Jeff Bell, incoming head of school at Cardinal Gibbons High School in Raleigh, NC
Tom Berrios
27:14
Hi Tom from Roselle Catholic Roselle NJ
Alicia Camacho
27:18
Alicia Camacho - Principal at St. Lawrence Brindisi School Los Angeles, CA
Sarah Strohmeyer
27:19
Sarah Strohmeyer from Notre Dame Regional High School in Cape Girardeau, MO
April Garcia
27:20
I am April Garcia from the Mary Ann Remick Leadership Program (Alliance for Catholic Education at the University of Notre Dame).
Susan Macrone
27:21
Hi, Sue Macrone, Educator from Mary, Mother of the Redeemer School in North Wales, PA (suburban Philadelphia)
Tracey Heisler
27:21
Hello! Tracey Heisler, Curriculum & Instruction Coordinator, Notre Dame Prep High School in Diocese of Phoenix
Pat Friesen
27:21
Hi! Pat Friesen from St Ignatius in Sacramento
Clifford Roer
27:22
Thank you for this important discussion. I am from Orlando. Bishop Moore Catholic High School
Joseph Bender
27:24
Joe Bender. English teacher at St. John Paul the Great in Dumfries, VA. Thank you for doing this.
Malinda Siers
27:26
Hello from St. Ursula Academy in Toledo, Ohio!
Laura Leming
27:27
Laura Leming, FMI from The University of Dayton in OH
Amy Becker
27:27
Hello! Amy Becker from the Archdiocese of Omaha NE. Im an assistant principal at a K-8 bldg. Thank you so much for taking on this important topic and guiding us.
Kathy Garcia
27:29
Kathy Garcia, Cathedral Catholic High School, San Diego, CA - Diocese of San Diego
Katerina Bleuss
27:33
Katerina Bleuss from Carson City, NV. I teach 2nd grade at St. Teresa of Avila
Beth Fenske
27:33
Beth Fenske from Christ The King, South Bend Indiana
Marcela Yerena
27:34
My name is Marcela Yerena, I am a Theology teacher at Louisville High School in Woodland Hills, CA@
Ashley Ell
27:36
Good afternoon! I am Ashley Ell from Bishop Moore Catholic in Orlando, FL
Molly Bardine
27:38
Molly Bardine from Chaminade Julienne High School Dayton, Ohio
Sarah Stone
27:39
Sarah Stone from Chaminade Julienne High School
Ms. Terry Piumetti
27:41
OMG! This is so cool.... people from all over the USA.
Alexandria Rios
27:42
Alexandria Rios! from Aquinas College Grand Rapids MI
Gabriel Jakubisin
27:50
Gabriel Jakubisin, Principal, St. Joan of Arc, Toledo, OH
Maria Rodriguez
27:53
Hi Maria Rodriguez from Catholics Partnership Schools
April Flood
27:54
Hello! I am April Flood from Owensboro Catholic Middle School in Owensboro, Kentucky.
Maureen Isphording
27:55
Hello! Maureen from St. Francis High School in Wheaton, IL. Thank you for offering this session!
Lauren Rocca
27:56
Lauren from University of Missouri
Catherine Cook
27:57
Catherine Cook, Superintendent, Diocese of Jackson, MS
Elliott Gualtiere
27:57
Elliott Gualtiere, Director of Campus Ministry from Fairfield Prep in Fairfield, CT
Rebecca Mueller
27:58
Rebecca Mueller from Holy Family Catholic Schools in Dubuque, IA
Steven Jones
28:03
Steven Jones from St. Joseph's in Greenville SC
Michael Derocher
28:05
Michael Derocher from Bishop Garriga Middle School in Corpus Christi, TX
brdavid
28:08
Thanks so much, Brother Michael Sullivan, St. Anthony's HS South Huntington, NY
Jennifer Liniewski
28:08
Jennifer Liniewski, Principal, Corpus Christi Catholic School, Holland, MI
Nicole West
28:13
Nikki West from ST. MARK Catholic School in Vienna, VA
Thomas Kenny
28:14
Hi Todd Kenny, SJ Cristo Rey Atlanta Jesuit High School
Maria Hoyle
28:21
Maria Hoyle from St. Mary’s Elementary School in Manhasset, NY
Stephanie Braun
28:26
Stephanie Braun from Visitation Academy in St. Louis, MO
Tonya Kostrzewa
28:33
Tonya Kostrzewa St. A's Kalamazoo
Christine Lazo
28:34
Hi! My name is Christine Lazo from St. Thomas More Catholic School in Alhambra, California. We are part of the Los Angeles Archdioces.
Mary Dowden
28:36
Mary Dowden, Immersion Coordinator, Junipero Serra HIgh School, San Mateo, CA
Kelsie Layana
28:41
Kelsie Layana from Cathedral Catholic High School (San Diego, CA)
brdavid
28:44
Looking forward to learning much. Brother David St. Anthaony'sHS South Huntington, NY
Martha
28:49
Thank you for doing this. Martha Wavrin, John Ireland Catholic School, MN
Chip Carter
28:49
Kelsey Schmidt, Principal, Cristo Rey Oklahoma City Catholic High School
Tiffany Lee
28:55
Hi I'm Tiffany from the Academy of Mount St. Ursula, an all girls Catholic high school in the Bronx, NY in the Archdiocese of NY.
Daniel Breen
29:01
Dan Breen, Secretary and Superintendent from Diocese of Harrisburg PA
Fr. Michael Liliedahl
29:11
Fr. Michael Liliedahl, Chaplain at Junipero Serra High School; San Mateo, CA
Allyssa Moscotte
29:12
Allyssa Moscotte from Providence High School in Burbank, California
Scott McNamee
29:19
Scott McNamee from Guerin Catholic in Noblesville, IN
Kristin Betbeze
29:35
Krissie Betbeze, Counselor at St. Cecilia Academy in Nashville, Tennessee.
Coach Grazier's ipad
29:38
Hi friends...Chris Grazier from Cathedral Catholic High School in Del Mar, California
Mary Kearney
29:48
Mary Kearney, CAO, Cristo Rey Network
Patricia Farrell
29:58
Patty Farrell, School Counselor, St. Joseph Catholic School, Herndon, VA
Beate Winkler Nguyen
30:08
Hello everyone from St. Augustine School Team in Culver City, CA Thank you for this opportunity here today. Dr. Nguyen.
Nicole Trahan
30:10
Hi all… Sr. Nicole Trahan, FMI Chaminade Julienne Catholic High School, Dayton, Ohio
Christopher Rebuck
30:17
Chris Rebuck from Dallas, TX. President at Bishop Lynch High School.
Jaime Hallman
30:18
Jaime Hallman, social studies teacher at Little Flower School in St. Louis!
William Trentman
30:19
Hello friends...William Trentman from Judge Memorial Catholic HS in SLC, UT.
Maria Sarte
30:23
Hi everyone! Maria Sarte, Director of Mission & Ministry from Fontbonne Academy in Boston, MA
David Sifuentes
30:24
David Sifuentes from Bishop Mora Salesian High School, Los Angeles
Peg Regan
30:33
Peg Regan
Michael McLaughlin
30:35
Greetings from Austin Preparatory School in Reading, Massachusetts. Thank you for providing this opportunity
Jeffrey McMurtry
30:41
Jeffrey McMurtry, Dean of Academics, Cathedral Catholic High School, San Diego
Ria Aquino
30:42
Hello everyone, Ria Aquino, Religious Studies Department Head from Immaculate Conception Academy Cristo Rey in San Francisco, ca.
Sr. Elizabeth Marie Kalscheur
30:56
Hello from Sr. Elizabeth Marie, O.P. of Frassati Catholic High School (Spring, TX).
Dave Worland
31:25
Thanks Kathy!
Sharlene McKenzie
31:29
Hi. I'm Sharlene McKenzie from Notre Dame HS in Sherman Oaks, CA
Lauren Casella
31:32
Lauren Casella, Loyola Marymount University, Director, Catholic School Leadership Academy, Los Angeles
Jennifer Serrano
31:42
Hi! I am Jennifer Serrano, Notre Dame High School, Sherman Oaks, Ca
Michael Aquino
31:47
Michael Aquino, Director of Campus Life & Culture, De La Salle HS, Concord, CA
Alicia Tapia
31:59
Alicia Tapia from Sacred Heart Cathedral, San Francisco, CA. Thank you for hosting this.
Sandra Briseno
32:02
Hi everyone, Sandra Briseño, Admissions Officer at Christ the King Jesuit College Prep, Chicago, IL.
Mary Fiala
32:18
Mary Fiala from the Diocese of Youngstown, OH
Elizabeth Berkes
32:23
Elizabeth Berkes, De La Salle HS in Concord, CA in the Diocese of Oakland
Heidi Harrison
32:31
Heidi Harrison from Sacred Heart Cathedral in San Francisco.
Dave Worland
32:53
Dave Worland Indianapolis Cathedral H.S.
ROBERT HORAN
32:58
Rob Horan, Communication and Tech teacher, Bishop O'Connell HS in Arlington, VA
Melissa English
33:05
Hi everyone! I'm from Blessed Sacrament in Denver which is preschool-8th grade.
Kaitlyn Weston
33:06
Hi! Kaitlyn Weston from Notre Dame Academy in San Diego. Thank you for hosting!
Patty Kochis
33:08
Hi everyone. Patty Kochis from St. Ignatius Parish School, Sacramento, CA
Elise Heil
33:21
Hi all, Elise Heil from Sacred Heart School in Washington, DC. A proud member of the Consortium of Catholic Academies
Brett Galland
33:25
Hello, Brett Galland Notre Dame HS, Sherman Oaks, CA
Chad Riley
33:28
Chad Riley, principal at Bishop Lynch High School, in Dallas, TX.
Veronica Fernandez
33:32
Hi all, I'm Veronica Fernandez, Director of Marketing Communications, Ramona Convent in Alhambra, CA
Colleen Zehr
33:33
Hi! Colleen Zehr from Ascension Catholic School in Overland Park, Kansas.
Melissa English
33:35
oh- Melissa English from Blessed Sacrament--I'm the preschool director
Angelica Bailon
33:36
Hi! Angelica Bailon from Sacred Heart Cathedral Prep in San Francisco.
Somyr Perry
34:11
Somyr Perry, development director, St. Francis School, Vista, CA
Jared Anderson-Minor
34:11
Hello! Jared Anderson-Minor, I’m the Campus Ministry Associate and a theology teacher at St. Mary’s Academy in Inglewood, CA.
Kurt Nelson
34:13
Hello! Kurt Nelson from Marian University-Indianapolis
Katie Lewis
34:15
Thank you for holding this panel. Katie Lewis from Cathedral High School, Indianapolis
Corey Kuminecz
34:22
HE’S A CHAMP
Michael Agrippina
34:30
Mike Agrippina from Cristo Rey Atlanta
Eddie Brock
34:36
Hello All! Eddie Brock here with Sr. Madeline from St. Francis of Assisi in Vista, CA. I am a retired SD Sheriff’s Lieutenant
Cari White
34:41
Hi! Cari White- St. Edward High School, in Cleveland, Ohio
Patrick Allison
34:46
Hello everyone, Patrick Allison, Santa Clara High School, Oxnard, CA. Thank you for this!
Julia Marentez
34:50
Hi! Julia Marentez, Principal from Holy Trinity School (K-8) in San Diego, CA
Erin Healy
34:51
Erin Healy, Cristo Rey Jesuit H.S. Twin Cities
Alejandra Angel
34:55
Alejandra Angel, Director of Campus Ministry at St. Mary's Academy in Inglewood, CA
Robert Bringas, Jr.
34:59
Robert Bringas - Holy Family HS - Glendale, CA Asst. Head of School and Dir of Student Life
Corey Kuminecz
35:00
Corey Kuminecz, Our Lady Queen of Angels School, East Harlem, NYC
David Evans
35:01
David Evans from Cardinal Mooney Catholic High School in Marine City Michigan
Lynna Landry
35:06
Lynna Landry from St. Mary's Academy in Inglewood, CA. Dean of Student Life and Humanities Academy Director
Laurie Galdes
35:11
Laurie Galdes from St. Lucy School in Campbell, California
Elmer Renderos
35:12
Hello Everyone, Elmer Renderos, St. Augustine School Culver City, CA.
Colleen Ennis
35:12
Hello! Colleen Fee - St. John the Evangelist, Carmichael, CA. Thank you for putting this together!
Jason Curtis
35:15
Jason Curtis from Saint Francis High School in Mountain View, CA. Thank you for this opportunity
Maria Apablasa
35:46
Hello! Maria Apablasa- Dean of Faculty at St. Mary's Academy in Inglewood California
Joe Filippone
36:21
Hi everyone, Joe Filippone from Cathedral Catholic in San Diego
Sheila Munsell
36:43
Hello all, Sheila Munsell from Cor Jesu Academy in St. Louis.
Joe Minucci
36:46
Thank you panelists and hello to all. Joe Minucci Saint Anthony’s HS Long Island, NY
Terese Carson
36:47
Hi Kathy and Father Hunter! This is Terese Carson from Roncalli High School in Indianapolis. Thank you to the panel for doing this!
Michelle Roberts
36:52
Hello all - Michelle Roberts from Roncalli High School, Indianapolis, IN
Colby Boysen
36:54
Colby Boysen from Incarnation Parish School in Glendale, CA. Blessed to be here with you all.
John P. McGarry, S.J.
36:58
John P. McGarry, S.J., President of Jesuit High School in Sacramento, CA
Cathy Zuccaro
37:04
Hello from Notre Dame Preparatory in Pontiac MI
Diane Effer
37:09
Hello! Diane Effer from Visitation Academy in St. Louis, MO. Thank you!
Aaron Gomez
37:14
Hello all! Aaron Gomez from Santa Clara High School in Oxnard, California. Thank you for this!
Karen Leary
37:16
Hello from CT, Archdiocese of Hartford, Archdiocesan School Board member
Christina Muraczewski
37:21
Christina Muraczewski- Arts Program Director at St. Mary's Academy in Inglewood, CA
Jonathan Schild
37:27
Hello! Jonathan Schild, Assoc. Superintendent for the Archdiocese of San Francisco. Thanks for hosting!
David Perry
37:29
Dave Perry President Cristo Rey Sacramento
Kathy Mears
37:35
This is the FIRST conversation, not the last. NCEA is committed to supporting the dialogue.
Myndi Keyton
37:36
Hello from Christ the King Catholic School in Fort Smith, Arkansas!
Mary Sue
38:06
Hello! From Sister Mary Sue, Saint James School, Falls Church, VA!
Christine Burke
38:06
Hello from St. Louis, MO St. Margaret of Scotland School.
Jessica Herrick
38:14
Jessica Herrick, St. Thomas More HS (Milwaukee)
Bea Pollard
38:22
Bea Pollard, 2nd grade educator and parishioner with Little Flower Parish, St. Louis, Missouri. So blessed to have this opportunity with you all.
Octavia Houtekier-Boyd
39:08
Octavia Houtekier-Boyd: Assistant Principal St. Paul the Apostle (PreK-8) Davenport, IA
Joe Therber
39:39
Joe Therber, President, Scecina Memorial High School, Indianapolis -- thank you
Billy Byrnes
40:08
Billy Byrnes, Campus Ministry, Junipero Serra High School; Thanks for putting this together
L Shepherd
40:29
Lorraine Shepherd here from Sacred Heart Nativity.👋🏽👋🏾👋🏿👋🏼
Fatima Nicdao
40:42
hello! Fatima Nicdao Assistant Principal from St Monica Catholic high school in Santa Monica, CA
Flannery O'Connor
41:00
hi all! Flannery O’Connor here from Cristo Rey Philadelphia.
Pamela Wray
41:11
Hello from the Diocese of Richmond in Virginia!
Carol Ward
41:58
Thank you from Pius XI Catholic High School Milwaukee.
Elizabeth Martino
42:17
HI from Our Lady of Hope in Blackwood, NJ. Thank you for this opportunity.
Carol LaMont
42:23
Hello from Chaminade-Madonna in Hollywood, FL
donna hansen
42:32
Grateful to you for opening this conversation! Donna Hansen SSL Louisville HS Woodland Hills, CA
Coreen Poklembo
42:36
Hello Everyone! Cori Poklembo from Aquinas Academy Greensburg Pennsylvania
Joe Hansen
43:16
Joe Hansen, Principal, Bishop Chatard HS, Indianapolis, IN
Elizabeth Berkes
43:55
AMEN
Melissa English
44:59
That's seriously one of my new favorite quotes. YES! The world would be different if Catholic schools themselves were completely different than the outside world.
Nicole Trahan
45:12
Indeed
Veronica Smith
45:20
Hi from St. Anthony of Padua School, Camden, N.J. Thank you for having this conversation. My "why" is for my 2 grandsons, Avery and Jeremy. And for ALL people of color.
Lucia Ramirez
46:10
"stop running behind news headlines" ...YES!
Nereida McGrath
46:28
Hello from Nereida McGrath from Mother McAuley High School in Chicago.
Nicole West
47:02
Nikki West from ST. MARK Catholic School, Vienna, VA. I teach kindergarten.
Walter Reap
47:07
Jesus lived in the margins; intentionally. How do we embrace this discomfort to then connect with one another?
Rachel Luckenbill
47:09
Hi from Bishop Moore Catholic HS in Orlando, FL
Mark Matthews
47:15
Yes, we are counter to culture! We must be different.
Marc Nuno
47:17
-Marc Nuno, Visitation Catholic STEM Academy in Tacoma, WA
Eddie Brock
47:42
DO we need to focus on color or the person? Respectfully, what color was Adam and Eve and is it important?
Joe Carriere
47:57
Joe Carriere, St. Michael Indian School in the Navajo Nation, AZ
Kortnee Acton
48:28
Hi Joe!
Samuel Torres
48:58
Samuel Torres, Superintendent of Catholic Schools, Diocese of San Bernardino
Marisa Monteverde
49:51
Marisa, from Santa Fe Catholic high school in Lakeland,Fl
James Everitt
50:16
Yes, we need to focus on the color of the person. It is the color that people use as a reason to dehumanize and murder. We can't afford to continue a colorblind approach to racial justice.
Maria Carolina Allas Gunter
50:44
@eddie brock, one's race and ethnicity is a part of one's identity. You can't separate that from personhood, no?
Ursula Aldana
50:50
White supremacy is a real thing Mr Brock and right now we are listening to the voices of African Americans in Catholic schools because it matters.
Mary Dowden
50:58
I think we need to recognize the lived experience of our students--often it is closely related to culture and race differences. thank you Vincent.
Eddie Brock
52:57
Thank you all! Healthy responses. I am African American and I have my share of scars. Thanks for sharing. When I feel, abused or disrespected, I only address the issue and try to understand the person. I tend to put race further down the line so I don’t return the same hurt I experienced.
Anselmo Villanueva
53:11
Is this session being taped? How will the recording be accessed?
Doreen Engel
53:15
I love the idea of children knowing their heritage! This seems truly critical.
Eddie Brock
53:24
yES. TAPED!
Lauren Rocca
53:37
In addition, Adam and Eve is a controversial story in general. That is a wonderful question. The majority of biblical scholars argue that there are virtually no white people in the Bible due to geographic location. Jesus was absolutely a brown-skinned, Aramaic man. Something interesting to reflect on.
Christy Bailleul
53:59
Curriculum review for each department in order to make sure that multiple voices are represented (race, culture, heritage) in every course. Every student should feel heard and get to listen to other students.
Eddie Brock
54:11
Agreed! Lauren!!
Nacia Hatch
54:14
Aloha from Holy Family in Honolulu, Hawaii. Mahalo to all the panelists and the NCEA.
Sabrina Landinguin
54:28
While I have nothing against food, dance, and celebration of culture, I feel that those things don’t get us to the really difficult conversations.
Lauren Rocca
54:29
:) thank you for asking the hard questions!
Ryan Darmody
54:42
I don’t want to see schools lean on the crutch of multiculturalism and inclusivity. I want our schools to teach anti-racism.
Andrea Manchester
54:50
Thank you Dr. Odom Lucas!
Nicole Trahan
54:52
Excellent point, Dr. Lucas
Kate Reardon
55:15
Excellent point, thank you
Lauren Casella
55:16
yes, Dr. Lucas!
Christy Bailleul
55:16
YES, Dr!!!
Julie Cairelli
55:19
Think it’s also important to teach more of the untold African American history in this country.. much of which is not in our text books. So many students don’t have a historical background to understand African-American struggles. Many white students don’t know this history because we weren’t taught it.
James Everitt
55:19
amen.
Lauren Rocca
55:26
I would also like to understand if black history will be incorporated in schools? Black literature?
Bridget Hicks
55:29
I agree
Tonya Kostrzewa
55:30
Yes!
Lauren Rocca
55:32
Agreed Julie!
Elizabeth Berkes
55:50
Yes, Dr. Odom Lucas! We need to ALL be in this TOGETHER! Thank you!
Sandra Briseno
56:03
I agree with you Dr. Odom Lucas!
Nacia Hatch
56:06
Yesssssss!
Robert Bringas, Jr.
56:09
That is absolutely correct…we must also teach the lion’s story so they get an idea of history from different perspectives
Diana Tompkins
56:12
Thank you, Dr. Odom Lucas!
Christina Holmes
56:14
Thank you Dr. Odom Lucas!
Marcela Yerena
56:30
So important! I echo very loudly what Dr. Odom Lucas just said!
Doreen Engel
56:30
Yes, thank you Dr. Lucas
Chad Riley
56:32
Perhaps a first step toward the courageous conversation is embracing the attitude “becoming intentional about race.”
Coreen Poklembo
56:34
Well said!
Eddie Brock
56:37
Dr Odom, you would LOVE San Diego!!
Robert Bringas, Jr.
56:40
We must look at our own privilege!!
Jessica Lyons
57:03
How can Catholic schools both model and prompt faculty and staff to begin that inner work?
Coach Grazier's ipad
57:07
Perspective is one key component of understanding. We understand that which we see from multiple perspectives.
Rich Romo
57:38
Thank you Dr Lucas
Kathy Mears
58:15
NCEA can make the bishops aware that a curriculum update addressing racism should be considered.
Veronica Smith
58:35
I am a white grandmother of 2 beautiful black boys. I NEED to have a conversation about color. If we think that people are not "prejudice", then we are fooling ourselves. We must use this time of change, as a time of growth. We must join all forces to emphasize Jesus' message that we must love each other. ALL others. And we are ALL others. We need to get away from the idea that "they" are "other". We are ALL together in the spirit. For me, I am so grateful that people are having conversations about color.
Molly Bardine
58:39
Great question, Jessica Lyons.
Ms. Terry Piumetti
59:19
YES!!!! 100%
Kelly Ramesh
59:36
Open Our Hearts Wide is a on the USCCB website
Kortnee Acton
59:37
A true conversation sharing our truths to foster change. Thanks Vince!
William Trentman
01:00:02
Conversations rooted in a Charitable Presumption of Good Will
Scott McLarty
01:01:12
The only problem with focusing on good will and good intention is that intention becomes the focus rather than impact - the terrible and violent negative impact of racism and white supremacy.
Joe Hansen
01:01:17
Yes, listening to everyone’s experiences…..I just had a parent share, “Just because we share the same spaces, doesn’t mean we share the same experiences.” Very true.
Timothy Heatwole Shenk
01:02:30
I'm a white man who grew up in a "nice" "inclusive" community with no understanding of my whiteness nor did anyone teach me about systemic racism. We need our white students to receive direct instruction in whiteness and racism
Doreen Engel
01:02:35
An African-American theme dorm...wow. I wonder if any Catholic Universities offer that option?
Ursula Aldana
01:02:46
Agreed Scott. Our students of color experience real racism in Catholic spaces and good will won’t save them from that violence.
Beate Winkler Nguyen
01:03:26
Catholic Schools often still have a very Euro-centric perspective and seldom “validate” the student’s “voice” We need to optimize student voices through student’s existing knowledge bases, cultural heritage, and unique God-given talents and gifts. We also need to acknowledge that our social studies books need major rewriting…including as Catholics we have to be able to speak to the injustices presented by our own church history… We need to be intentional about making connections to lived experiences to build a relevant curriculum. Our own Pope Francis opens a lot of relevant discussion points.
Marcela Yerena
01:03:35
BRAVE SPACE!
Ursula Aldana
01:04:55
USF offers the Black Achievement Success and Engagement (BASE) program
Alicia Tapia
01:05:00
Safe space to brave space
Marcela Yerena
01:05:03
Yes!
Nicole Trahan
01:05:26
Excellent points, Beate Winkler Nguyen. There’s a lot of work to be done.
Jessica Lyons
01:05:35
Beate- Thank you. Very interested in how others approach teaching injustices within Church History, and how they incorporate voices not centered in our textbooks
Cari White
01:05:46
our English department is offering an elective next year on literature exclusive to African-American authors, and another focused on voices of the other- all minority voices.
Maria Carolina Allas Gunter
01:06:26
Affinity groups can be a safe/brave space. Mixed groups where there hasn't been ongoing training/development make me question: safe for whom? BIPOC don't always feel we can be authentic selves in mixed group settings bc institution doesn't have this as part of the school culture.
Scott McLarty
01:07:28
"Safe" all too often means "comfortable." Those of us who are white educators MUST recognize the difference and deliberately make ourselves uncomfortable. The very fact that we have that choice is evidence of our privilege.
Francisco Castillo
01:07:37
Love the focus on using strategic data to drive decisions, Dr. Lucas. Thank you for pointing this out
Maria Carolina Allas Gunter
01:07:40
Yes, Dr. Lucas--what's missing/omitted. Can happen even if you have units or attempt to diversity or decolonize curriculum because people without cultural competency can inadvertently continue teaching through a lens of whiteness or where whiteness is centered.
Mary Sue
01:07:41
AMEN!
Lauren Casella
01:07:42
yes, Dr. Odum Lucas!
Nereida McGrath
01:07:42
YES!!!
Christina Holmes
01:07:47
Amen, Catholic schools SHOULD be the safe space.
Tonya Kostrzewa
01:07:48
Thank you Dr. Odom Lucas!! Yes
Jessica Lewis
01:07:54
PREACH!!!!!!
Aaron Gomez
01:07:56
Yes
Coreen Poklembo
01:08:02
Wow!
Carolyn Drone
01:08:04
YES!!
Billy Byrnes
01:08:09
Does that mean not accepting students into the school who don't agree with "safe spaces" or full inclusion?
brdavid
01:08:12
Well Said Dr. Lucas
Emily Cadena
01:08:19
wow yes 👏🏼
Jessica Lewis
01:08:25
I can not handle ALL the Black kids!! As much as I want to, I can’t!!
Kurt Nelson
01:08:27
“Catholic schools should be the safe space.” Amen!!
Marcela Yerena
01:08:33
Yes times infinity Dr. Odom Lucas!
Octavia Houtekier-Boyd
01:08:35
Yes…authentically Catholic! We are JESUS.
Doreen Engel
01:08:36
Yes! Looking at being welcoming to all parents is so key. I taught at a school that was about 35% white 35% black and 30% latino - yet the only parents that were routinely involved in leadership and activities were all white. We have to reach out ahd listen to parents of color as to how they want to be involved.
Eddie Brock
01:08:57
Great Job Tiff Norris!!!!! Roll Dons!
Lucia Ramirez
01:08:58
"Catholic schools should not have safe spaces, we should be a safe space...a safe school" AMEN!
Christopher Rebuck
01:09:07
How best can Catholic Schools support the Black Lives Matter movement?
Maria Rodriguez
01:09:12
I agree Dr. Lucas!
Jessica Lyons
01:09:22
We have an entirely white faculty. Admin says they would love POC teachers and wonder why they are not receiving applications from POCs. But action ends there. What are next steps? How to proceed in examination of our school culture and ideologies?
Julie Cairelli
01:09:33
Think the first step is teaching students on how to accept feeling “uncomfortable” in these discussions and being open. We would need to work with students/staff/faculty/admin to accept this uncomfortable feeling and that it’s okay to be uncomfortable.
Chad Riley
01:09:54
Thinking in terms of Essential Questions for our campuses, what would be THE Essential Question we should ask at each of our campuses?
Karen Ramirez
01:09:55
Leadership in all our catholic schools need to be AWARE of the needs in our schools. They need to hire teachers that reflect the community members. They need to have diversity specialists if that is not their area of strength. I know that this is a area of weakness in predominately white schools (like the one I work at).
Nacia Hatch
01:10:33
Dr. Odom Lucas just gave a short and succinct guide to Catholic School leadership - 1) Jesus should be felt when you walk into a Catholic School 2) Catholic Schools should be counter culture 30 Catholic Schools are the Safe/brave spaces.
Maria Carolina Allas Gunter
01:10:40
@chad riley, I'm happy to share our essential questions across grades 6-8 that address identity development
Kathy Mears
01:11:28
Please share resources here or email them to me at kmears@ncea.org and we will put on our website for your use.
Ursula Aldana
01:11:32
Dr. Odum asks us to 1) review your discipline policies/data 2) teacher student relationships- how does your school collect (including demographics) and share that data with all staff? What is the school climate? Racial climate on your campus- once you can do that work, POC might have a chance of staying longer before they are burned out
Kathy Mears
01:12:27
Maria, I would be happy to distribute them to people.
Samuel Torres
01:12:38
Catholic schools are on Holy Ground, we, as Catholic educators have been entrusted in revealing the gospel message. Our educators must believe in ministry first.
Doreen Engel
01:12:52
I have heard some suggest that we need to look at our own students and say to them "If you have a vocation to be a teacher - come back and teach here. We want more black and brown teachers here. Tell people you know. Think about majoring in education. Stay in touch with us while you are in college. Do an internship back here when you are in college."
Chad Riley
01:13:12
Great, Maria and Kathy. Thank you.
Rachel Luckenbill
01:13:18
I wish schools would increase representation of contemporary Native American authors/historians, etc. They are often excluded but are central to dialogues about race, identity, systemic injustice
Eddie Brock
01:14:29
Hiring minorities into. Visible positions may help build the comfort and respect needed and bridge the perspective gap
Francisco Castillo
01:15:13
I found this framework to be super insightful for school communities, written by Dena Simmons: http://www.ascd.org/publications/newsletters/education-update/oct19/vol61/num10/How-to-Be-an-Antiracist-Educator.aspx
Sandra Briseno
01:16:17
Yes!
Natalia Navas
01:16:31
I agree!!
Nicole Trahan
01:16:36
Thank you, Francisco Castillo for the resource
Ann Dettmann
01:17:00
@Francisco Castillo: Thank you! Looks great!
Carie Coleman
01:17:08
Thanks Francisco
Doreen Engel
01:17:21
hanks Francisco. It does look good.
Maria Carolina Allas Gunter
01:17:32
If anyone's interested, Dr. Tia Pratt posted her #BlackCatholics syllabus today: https://tiapratt.com/blackcatholicssyllabus-2/
Connie Springfield
01:17:57
I am on the same boat with Jessica Lyons: We have an entirely white faculty. Admin says they would love POC teachers and wonder why they are not receiving applications from POCs. But action ends there. What are next steps? How to proceed in examination of our school culture and ideologies?
Heidi Harrison
01:18:31
Thank you, Maria Carolina Allas Gunter
jorian fletcher
01:18:43
yes! how can I do better
Maria Carolina Allas Gunter
01:19:08
Lots of wisdom from the panelists. One way we can elevate voices is to cite our panelist's words when we post on social media or share their wisdom with our colleagues.
Doreen Engel
01:19:16
Thank you Maria Carolin
Sabrina Landinguin
01:19:22
Education of self! Yes! We are all responsible for this learning. This is not about asking someone else to give us an answer.
Michael Corte
01:20:21
Father, you spoke of making Jesus Christ the focal point. That is my interest, so my question is something like this: As a theology teacher, how do I articulate our American problems with racism - and our answers - using orthodox Catholic language - especially Scriptural language?
Doreen Engel
01:20:37
Yes - If NCEA has more opportunities like this they need to give the names and backgrounds of the panelists in all the announcements. I want to know everyone's name, title and work area so I can give them credit for their ideas.
Francisco Castillo
01:20:38
Say it louder for the people in the back, Vince!
Peggy Saunders
01:21:06
Two great resources I have found: National Museum and African American History and Culture and PBS Learning. Good for teachers and students!
Rebecca Wilson
01:21:30
Facing History and Ourselves in a good resource.
Beate Winkler Nguyen
01:21:32
We first need to shift from a “deficit-thinking mindset” in our society, popular culture, families and social media, and be counter-cultural with an “asset-based thinking mindset” by recognizing Gods’ unique design of every person. He created each one with optimum human potential (student/teachers/parents). God does NOT make any mistakes! But, do we optimize the human potential in our classroom? Do we see the humanity in each other?
Eddie Brock
01:22:04
Does anyone know if we will get a copy of thWillis discussion AND the chat? Good convo and resources going on…
Ursula Aldana
01:22:12
For those Catholic school leaders, Dr. Odum has been doing this work for years at Verb. She describes part of this journey. She wrote this with a colleague at Verb, a former student. https://digitalcommons.lmu.edu/ce/vol19/iss1/13/
Maria Carolina Allas Gunter
01:22:33
Thanks, Ursula.
Christina Holmes
01:23:27
What about the diversity in administration and staff? Representation matters.
Jonathan Londono
01:23:33
Thank you Ursula
April Garcia
01:23:44
YES - Dr. Lucas!!!
Jessica Lewis
01:23:45
YES!!!!
Alicia Tapia
01:23:48
YES, and do more than have the conversations. Often we have the conversations and don’t do anything afterwards… make sure you don’t just have the conversation just to have them, do something about what you hear. Don’t practice that “willful ignorance”
Jennifer Serrano
01:23:50
AMEN!
Jessica Lewis
01:23:51
One more time!
Maria Carolina Allas Gunter
01:23:54
Yes, Dr. Lucas!!! Same experience of being racialized. Thank you for speaking to this.
Veronica Smith
01:24:17
Thank you Tiffany, yes, we must have the conversations.Thank you Vincent, for challenging people to be intentional about what you want to know, and what you need to change. Thank you Dr. Brandi, for the challenge to read. Trevor Noah is a great author has helped me to understand racism better.Thank you ALL panelists for opening this conversation.
Kathy Mears
01:24:19
NCEA has emailed the names and backgrounds of each member of the panel to all participants.
Connie Springfield
01:24:33
Dr. Lucas is right on! Our Leadership team is all white and cater to the students whose parent s went to school there. We need to break this cycle.
jorian fletcher
01:24:49
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Bea Pollard
01:24:56
Amen, Connie!!!
L Shepherd
01:25:12
Preach Brandi!way to represent Jesuits West
Karen Ramirez
01:25:16
NCEA should offer sessions to Catholic school leadership (principles and presidents) on the topic of creating anti-racist school climate. AND what does 21st century discipline look like in our Catholic schools and has it evolved and changed to meet the needs of our current students? AND how can an entire school community offer help and support to our students in the areas of racial equality (many teachers feel that this is only the job of school counselors, campus ministers and religion teachers).
Amanda Baumgartner
01:25:17
This panel discussion should be sent to every head of every Catholic school in the country. It is so powerful and full of wisdom that could change the trajectory of Catholic education to model more closely the teachings of Jesus
Robin Johnston
01:25:39
Thankful to all of you panelists. Sincere gratitude for your time and insights.
Doreen Engel
01:25:46
Yes Connie. I have seen this many times.
Lauren Casella
01:26:08
A norm that needs to be challenged is: “We don’t need to “take a side” or make a statement on Black Lives Matter, because we are a Catholic school and we are a loving place.” Can the panel share what our Catholic schools must say publicly - especially to our white communities?
Tiffany Lee
01:26:30
Definitely would like to share this with my colleagues at school. I'm taking notes and hope there will be a recording to share as well.
Karin Sabyan
01:26:35
Yes! A process…not a program!
Marybeth Ortiz
01:26:37
Thank you for taking the time to help us all to collectively make a difference...I appreciate you all...
Mary Sue
01:26:39
Thank you! Very helpful and insightful. Thank you for the resources.
Elizabeth Berkes
01:26:39
When I affirm to our students that black lives matter, I do mean all black lives. I am including our black students of all faiths and no faith, of different genders, including our LGBTQ students. Thinking about Dr. Crenshaw’s theory of intersectionality, how can we understand, include, respect, and honor our students’ complex identities and their voices and actively work to dismantle the systems of oppression that we are surely recreating all the time? Trying to be a better ally and an upstander.
Nereida McGrath
01:26:52
Thank you to all the panelists!!!
Jessica Herrick
01:26:59
Thank you for your time, energy, and wisdom. God bless!
Christian Dallavis
01:27:00
Amen Rodney - thanks for your leadership!
Molly Bardine
01:27:03
Thank you for follow up and resources!
Ann Dettmann
01:27:09
Thank you all!
Michael Aquino
01:27:16
Thank you to all of the panelists and for putting this on!
Marybeth Ortiz
01:27:16
Thank you!!!!
Sarah Stone
01:27:18
Thank you all!
Billy Byrnes
01:27:18
Thanks Panelists and NCEA!
Elizabeth Berkes
01:27:18
Thank you panelists- I am inspired and appreciate your leadership.
Natalia Navas
01:27:19
Thank you so much!
Michael Agrippina
01:27:19
Sincere thanks to everyone! This has been extremely helpful. I have lots of work to do, and I appreciate the guidance and resources.
Bart
01:27:20
Thank you so much!
Fatima Nicdao
01:27:22
thank you for this ! this opens up conversations for diversity in NCEA and leadership as well
Susan Skinner
01:27:22
Thank you - very much appreciated.
Fiona Chalmers
01:27:22
Thank you all so much! I look forward to the next one!
Christian Cahill
01:27:23
Thank you all, this was so powerful, enlightening, and helpful!
Nicole Trahan
01:27:26
I look forward to future conversations like this one. Thank you all and thank you to NCEA.
Terese Carson
01:27:28
Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom and experiences!
Christina Holmes
01:27:31
Thank you for hosting this important discussion.
Kurt Nelson
01:27:33
Thank you to all!
Marcela Yerena
01:27:33
Thank you to the panelists!
Doug Varley
01:27:33
Thanks to all panelists for your honesty and expertise!
Tonya Kostrzewa
01:27:34
Thank you to all the panelists for sharing your lived experience
Pat Friesen
01:27:36
Thank you!!
David Evans
01:27:36
Thank You
Joshua Englund
01:27:38
Thank you, great load of information and thanks for starting the conversation.
Maria Rodriguez
01:27:38
Thank you so much!
Patrick Flanagan
01:27:40
Thank you for this opportunity, especially to the panelists.
Amy Gembara
01:27:41
Thank you everyone for having a courageous conversation today. I am so grateful, and blessed to listen, learn, and grow from today. God bless you, your ministry as Catholic educators, and voices that are courageous on race and diversity!
Grace Trahan-Rodecap
01:27:41
Thank you!!!
Colleen Zehr
01:27:41
Thank you! I have a lot to think about and will be sharing this with other staff.
Samuel Torres
01:27:41
Thank you!
Jennifer Serrano
01:27:42
Thank you so much!
Sr. Elaine Poitras
01:27:49
Thank you to all the panelists for their willingness to share their stories and insights so genuinely.
Patricia Farrell
01:27:51
Thank you!
Carolyn Drone
01:27:51
Thank you so much!
David Sifuentes
01:27:52
Thank you so much
Amanda Barry
01:27:55
Thank you!! So informative!
Victoria Graf
01:27:58
Great discussion. Thank you.
Joe Hansen
01:28:08
Thank you to all panelists for a powerful evening!
Coreen Poklembo
01:28:09
Thank you Rodney!
Michelle Roberts
01:28:09
Thank you for starting this conversation - I'm here for the long haul - this is only the beginning our our work!
Maria Carolina Allas Gunter
01:28:10
Rodney, yes! I have imposter syndrome, too, and similarly, at my school site being asked to do some of this work, I wonder to what end? Is this a real commitment? Are we talking systemic change?
Kevin Kiefer
01:28:12
Thanks to all of the panelists!
Karen Holyk-Casey
01:28:15
Thank you all panelists. I would like to see the pastors involved in this conversation too.
Coreen Poklembo
01:28:16
Thanks Kathy!
Maria Apablasa
01:28:16
Thank you all so much. So lucky and proud to get to work with Dr. Lucas through our brother school Verbum Dei. !
Doreen Engel
01:28:17
Panelists - this was a wonderful start! I hope the conversations keep continuing and real change can happen. We can't have this just be a "check off."
Fatima Nicdao
01:28:19
thank you Rodney Pierre Antoine
Kaitlyn Weston
01:28:19
I am so grateful for all of you sharing your experiences and wisdom. Thank you!
Aaron Gomez
01:28:22
Thank you so much! Very informative discussion.
Sheila Munsell
01:28:23
Thank you - great information
Nancy Kennedy
01:28:25
Thank you, all!
Mary Dowden
01:28:28
Thank you, your collective voices inspire and affirm
Malinda Siers
01:28:28
Thank you for sharing your insights!
Maria Carolina Allas Gunter
01:28:29
Thank you panelists for being so generous with your time and talent.
Leisha Reynolds
01:28:32
Thank you for this courageous conversation and for inspiring courageous conversations in our own school spaces and classrooms!
Dave Worland
01:28:38
Even go further and attract more than just administrators of color. Also attract more teachers and other staff of color.
Patrick Hyland
01:28:41
Very well done. Thank you.
Jeff Bell
01:28:45
Thanks very much for a great session. So helpful.
Scott Hamilton
01:28:53
Thank you all for doing this!
Rodney Pierre-Antoine
01:28:54
The schools we need to be
Angelica Bailon
01:28:58
Thank you!
Carol LaMont
01:29:05
Thank you...praying for courage.
Minerva Rubio
01:29:11
BRAVO!!!!!! Our engines are ON! Thank You!
Marc Nuno
01:29:15
Thank you!
Heidi Harrison
01:29:19
Wonderful beginning to the conversation. Thank you!
Sabrina Landinguin
01:29:21
Thank you so much.
Grace Trahan-Rodecap
01:29:26
Excellent! Thank you!
jorian fletcher
01:29:27
thank you for having this platform
Rosemary Johnston
01:29:28
Thank you so much!
Elliott Gualtiere
01:29:34
Thank you everyone. This is a great start. To all the panelists and in particular my fellow Jesuit school panelists you have made us proud. FPD will be extremely important! Thank you again NCEA.
Tara Cevallos
01:29:45
https://blackcatholichistory.com/
Joe Hansen
01:29:47
Thank you Kathy Mears for organizing this…..much appreciated.
Valerie Asuncion
01:29:48
Thank you panelists and NCEA.
Beate Winkler Nguyen
01:29:49
Thank you all for this opportunity! This is just the beginning NCEA!
Clifford Roer
01:29:51
Thank you so much. Great information and ideas.
Austin Walker
01:29:52
thank you all for allowing us to be a part of this conversation!
Alicia Tapia
01:29:55
Thank you panelists.
Emily Paz
01:29:56
Thank you, look forward to continuing the conversation!
April Flood
01:29:57
Thank you all so much!
Nicholas Hosmer
01:29:57
Thank you!
Buenaventura Torres-Ayala
01:29:57
Buenaventura Torres-Ayala- thank you for this meeting and the follow up efforts to help us continue the conversation and help us help our students.
Katie Lewis
01:29:58
Thank you!
Nicole Trahan
01:29:58
Thank you for addressing the Bishop’s theology curriculum framework
Laura Plascencia
01:30:00
thank you all for speaking your truth, god bless¡
Julie Cairelli
01:30:00
Thank you!
Catherine Villmer
01:30:00
thank you
Jonathan Londono
01:30:01
Thank you!
Tara Cevallos
01:30:01
Thank you.
Michael McLaughlin
01:30:01
Thank you
Emily Cadena
01:30:02
Thank you!
Nancy Kennedy
01:30:03
Amen!
Kevin Kiefer
01:30:03
Amen.
Amanda Baumgartner
01:30:03
Thank you!
Christine Burke
01:30:08
Amen!
Marcela Yerena
01:30:08
AMen!